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Mainecat

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Posted: 11/20/08 06:36am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Yeah lets let Communist China walk away with one of our last military capable assembly lines instead of helping.....yeah.

Keep buying foreign autos and trinkets fools.






AIC, Dongfeng to buy GM, Chrysler?

Shanghai, November 19, 2008: (Gasgoo.com) Auto manufacturing giants in China, such as Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation (SAIC) and Dongfeng Motor Corporation, may buy some assets of the two crisis-plagued American automakers General Motors and Chrysler LLC, Zhang Xiangmu, director of China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology - the state regulator of China's auto industry - told reporters recently. Gasgoo reporters asked some sources to confirm the news today.

"GM will not sell its joint ventures¡ªShanghai GM and Shanghai-GM-Wuling in China,¡° said Zhou Fangyu, former director of GM Business Development Department. Data showed that Shanghai GM posted a net profit of up to 3.8 billion yuan during Jan.-Sept this year, reflecting China is still a high-growing market for GM, so GM would not sell its joint ventures in China, he said.

Henry Wong, a Shanghai-based spokesman for the biggest US auto maker, told AFP in an interview on Nov.13 that GM is continuing its investment in China and actually the American automaker¡¯s operation has been very profitable in China. "We are not withdrawing or holding back any investment in China," he said.

A source from SAIC told Gasgoo.com reporters in a phone interview that he hasn¡¯t heard of SAIC¡¯s any plan to buy GM or Chrysler. It is impossible for SAIC to acquire assets of GM or Chrysler directly in the U.S. as the Chinese auto giant has suffered a big loss in acquiring foreign assets, the source said. However, he also noted that it may be possible for SAIC to buy some suppliers or joint ventures of GM in China.

Another SAIC source also denied hearing the news report. He was just back from a SAIC corporate meeting held on Nov.18, and said the meeting didn¡¯t touch this matter. ¡°It is unlikely for SAIC or Dongfeng Motor to buy any assets of GM and Chrysler in China or abroad, he commented.

As Chinese automakers have been badly affected by the global financial crisis, many automakers have lowered their 2008 sales targets and have begun to cut production and jobs. Auto giants like FAW, and Dongfeng can¡¯t fulfill their sales target this year. A take-over of a large overseas automaker would not fit Chinese automaker now. Besides, SAIC has bought a lot of loss-making foreign assets such as MG, and Ssangyong, both being great burdens for the Chinese automaker now, so it will not consider another take-over, he said.

A senior executive from a global famous Investment Inc said he knew the rumor, but he declined to comment. Many companies in China may leak out such rumors at this time, but whether it is true we should wait and see, he said.

The executive has dealt with many businesses for Chinese automakers to expand in overseas markets.

Analysts said SAIC and Dongfeng, both China¡¯s state-owned enterprises under close supervision of the government, may intentionally leak such news out to incur the media and industry attention to the potential of acquisition.

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Posted: 11/20/08 06:50am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Mainecat wrote:

Yeah lets let Communist China walk away with one of our last military capable assembly lines instead of helping.....yeah.

Keep buying foreign autos and trinkets fools.






AIC, Dongfeng to buy GM, Chrysler?

Shanghai, November 19, 2008: (Gasgoo.com) Auto manufacturing giants in China, such as Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation (SAIC) and Dongfeng Motor Corporation, may buy some assets of the two crisis-plagued American automakers General Motors and Chrysler LLC, Zhang Xiangmu, director of China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology - the state regulator of China's auto industry - told reporters recently. Gasgoo reporters asked some sources to confirm the news today.

"GM will not sell its joint ventures¡ªShanghai GM and Shanghai-GM-Wuling in China,¡° said Zhou Fangyu, former director of GM Business Development Department. Data showed that Shanghai GM posted a net profit of up to 3.8 billion yuan during Jan.-Sept this year, reflecting China is still a high-growing market for GM, so GM would not sell its joint ventures in China, he said.

Henry Wong, a Shanghai-based spokesman for the biggest US auto maker, told AFP in an interview on Nov.13 that GM is continuing its investment in China and actually the American automaker¡¯s operation has been very profitable in China. "We are not withdrawing or holding back any investment in China," he said.

A source from SAIC told Gasgoo.com reporters in a phone interview that he hasn¡¯t heard of SAIC¡¯s any plan to buy GM or Chrysler. It is impossible for SAIC to acquire assets of GM or Chrysler directly in the U.S. as the Chinese auto giant has suffered a big loss in acquiring foreign assets, the source said. However, he also noted that it may be possible for SAIC to buy some suppliers or joint ventures of GM in China.

Another SAIC source also denied hearing the news report. He was just back from a SAIC corporate meeting held on Nov.18, and said the meeting didn¡¯t touch this matter. ¡°It is unlikely for SAIC or Dongfeng Motor to buy any assets of GM and Chrysler in China or abroad, he commented.

As Chinese automakers have been badly affected by the global financial crisis, many automakers have lowered their 2008 sales targets and have begun to cut production and jobs. Auto giants like FAW, and Dongfeng can¡¯t fulfill their sales target this year. A take-over of a large overseas automaker would not fit Chinese automaker now. Besides, SAIC has bought a lot of loss-making foreign assets such as MG, and Ssangyong, both being great burdens for the Chinese automaker now, so it will not consider another take-over, he said.

A senior executive from a global famous Investment Inc said he knew the rumor, but he declined to comment. Many companies in China may leak out such rumors at this time, but whether it is true we should wait and see, he said.

The executive has dealt with many businesses for Chinese automakers to expand in overseas markets.

Analysts said SAIC and Dongfeng, both China¡¯s state-owned enterprises under close supervision of the government, may intentionally leak such news out to incur the media and industry attention to the potential of acquisition.

Were ya just as big into this when GM was going around the world buying up other car companies MC, or does it only go one way. I would think you would like communism, It's just one step beyond liberalism isn't it.

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Posted: 11/20/08 06:56am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

LOL @ mainecat. Yo, where were your underwear made numbnuts? Jus axien.


Mainescant says, "that's just an Urban Legend"....LOL

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Posted: 11/20/08 07:02am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You both just made my point......YOU DON'T GET IT.

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Posted: 11/20/08 07:25am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

GM uses this as a scare tactic and MC takes the bait!


Beavis440_the_babblin_dem wrote:

You, I can't take serious. You have nothing to offer. You're a hollow tree full of hot air.


me wrote:

So what exactly is a solid tree full of cold air - like?



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I don't think anybody gets it MC. The big 3 want 25 billion to help them get back on thier feet. How is that gonna help? If nobody is buying cars, how will it help them? If China buys them out, will people start buying cars then? Auto sales in US is down across the board, it's just the big 3 with thier fat cat ceo's thought the SUV craze was gonna last forever. Four dollar a gallon gas took care of that and thier high margin vehicle sales went down the shyter. What our elected officials should do is, instaed of giving the big 3 our money, use it for incentive money for potential car buyers. Something like: Buy a Ford, Chrysler, GM product and claim the sales tax on your tax return. Buy a Big 3 hybrid and we pay the tax PLUS a green tax rebate of 2k. If we can get people buying cars, then the rest will take care of itself.

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Posted: 11/20/08 07:34am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Lets all go out and "Buy American" and see what that does for our economy. Ya, and I don't get it...LOL

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Posted: 11/20/08 07:34am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Mainecat wrote:

You both just made my point......YOU DON'T GET IT.

Let's see MC, your point is we need them in time of war, right? In case ya haven't noticed we are at war. The thing you don't get is the government buys with a bid process and with their high costs they wouldn't be even be close to being competive. So now we should bail them out even though we couldn't afford then when we need them. Is that about it?

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Posted: 11/20/08 07:38am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Haliburton didn't need the bid process. Wonder why?

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Posted: 11/20/08 07:40am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

We tried the "Buy Foreign" over the last several years. Hows that worked out?

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